as soon as i saw the number i knew something bad had happened.
seems my mother (71) has breast cancer in her remaining breast.
her first time was in 2001. i volunteered my son's services for taxiing back and forth or whatever is needed.
sorry to hear the news of your mother. my mums is a cancer survivor, i hope yours will be too.
sounds to me that you should throw the burden of 'taxi service' right back onto the pioneers lap though.
they should not be allowed to have it both ways. too often the lofty pioneer or bethelite gets free pass on parental responsability and it gets put fair and square on the familiy who are not so 'special' or not in the 'truth' at all.
Oz
the year once 1983 and the brother who use to study the bible with me drove by and had a full on "charles manson" looking facial hair and beard.
i asked tina, a friend what's up with him?
tina was 19 and a hot red-head woman who was partially in the religion but had problems with fornication.
i have magnificent side burns...rockabilly heaven.
i suspect the whole grow a beard thing may be simply that it was once forbidden so feel like a reminder that you are out every time you look in the mirror.
Oz
i've been playing around with wt statistics recently, helped by the great data available on jwfacts.com.
i wanted to share somehting with the community, maybe you've seen something like this before.. continuing the trend of decline seen during the last 30 years, i was able to extrapolate the year when wt growth might finally end.
if trends continue, we may only have to wait about 8 more years, 9 years to see it reported if the wt decides to report it at all, to see publisher growth end and possibly reverse.. the graph shows the annual growth rate of average publishers during the last 31 years.
hate to rain on the parade but...
If this graph had been done in 2005, the straight line of decline would have probably been drawn at 2010 for the zero growth or even negative 'growth',
so IF the next 5 years have some more peakes as have the last 6 years, then that might not happen till 2030, 2035 etc etc...decline yes but i cant see even zero for a lot longer than 2020
Oz
check out this arriving in april:.
what bible principles apply to the useof cell phones while attending christian meetings and sharing in the ministry?.
for everything there is an appointed time.
have not been to a meeting for long time...maybe they are full of beeps, ringtones and musical message tones such as deathmetal tunes...
and its driving the poor oldies spare?!
oz
yes i think we can rightfully say that the governing body will hold the record for this title.
the corporation is our mother, our father, our provider and divider of holy spirit, and no one can come to god except through the corporation,, with the wheel inside the wheels full of eyes, and jehovah hovering over head with cherubs at the 4 corners.. yes the governing body are the high rollers of the organization/corporation that you can offer worshipful thanks and obedience to, because they as they so often have proven from many scriptures with reason defying logic that they are the chosen one's of god almighty to lead his people into the promised land flowing with friendly lions and tigers just waiting for you to pet them while downing a nice pomegranate smoothy.. all hail jehovah's visible corporation/ark of the covenant!
"holy corporation worship batman!!".
The Corporation is our mother, our father, our provider and divider of Holy Spirit, and no one can come to God except through the Corporation,, with the wheel inside the wheels full of eyes, and Jehovah hovering over head with cherubs at the 4 corners.
Is this a quote from a publication, a talk, a video?......didnt hear it on the youtube...
Oz
i'm falling apart here.
the false teachings of the jw enrage me; we started covering the information for the jeremiah book, and i was outraged at how they twist up the scriptures to meet what they want to say.
my dad wants to consider the "god's love" book during family worship evening.
perhaps the reality is that its time to strike out on your own.
many young people leave home voluntarily at 15/16. (i did at 16, my wife did at 14) Somethimes education has to wait, take second place to survival, you know, get a job and pay the rent.
It might mean at times you are doing it tough, very tough. I lived 6 months in a 2 man tent once...
Oz
i notice the jw bible is copyrighted.
are any other "holy" books copyrighted?.
i guess that means publishing it online along with a critique would violate the copyright?.
even if it doesn',t you can bet your ass that the WT legal team will go after you and have it removed...
Oz
i heard very few if any, of the new members on the governing body actually go out in field service more than three hours a month.
is there a reason why the governing body would excuse themselves from the master's commandments?
jesus christ never said "spending time writing rules and regulations" was part of matthew 28. .
actually, taking another look at Herd's bag it does look photoshopped in too...I had a bag very similar to that and it was much bigger. It looks about the size of a ladies handbag in that pic...
Oz
ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.
someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.
i disagree but i want to have a reference..
funny enough...or NOT funny, was that when I was 'in' i never questioned or investigated any of the WTs list of cultures with a flood legend.
That there was a list was good enough for me... and I suspect for most of us before we woke up.
Oz
edit: anyway, as you are looking for a culture that has NO flood story, the above lists might help you cross them off ...
ok im looking for a specific religion and culture that has no flood story.
someone claimed that every religion/culture has a flood story.
i disagree but i want to have a reference..
From the insight book, another big list of cultures claimed to have flood stories that CAME FROM the 'real one' of Noah
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onpage 328] (For fully formatted text, see publication)Flood Legends
Samples from six continents and the islands of the sea; hundreds of such legends are known
Australia- Kurnai
Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared/ Preserved in a VesselBabylon-Berossus’ account
Destruction by Water / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared/ Preserved in a VesselBabylon -Gilgamesh epic
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared /Preserved in a VesselBolivia- Chiriguano
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Preserved in a VesselBorneo-Sea Dayak
Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselBurma- Singpho
Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselCanada- Cree
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselCanada - Montagnais
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselChina- Lolo
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselCuba-original natives
Destruction by Water / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselEast Africa- Masai
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselEgypt -Book of the Dead
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Preserved in a VesselFiji -Walavu-levu tradition
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a VesselFrench Polynesia- Raïatéa
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Warning Given / Humans Spared / Animals SparedGreece -Lucian’s account
Destruction by Water / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselGuyana - Macushi
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Animals Spared / Preserved in a VesselIceland - Eddas
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a VesselIndia -Andaman Islands
Destruction by Water / Divine Cause / Humans Spared / Preserved in a VesselIndia - Bhil
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselIndia - Kamar
Destruction by Water Divine Cause Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a VesselIran - Zend-Avest
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals SparedItaly - Ovid’s poetry
Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a VesselMalay Peninsula- Jakun
Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a VesselMexico -Codex Chimalpopoca
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a VesselMexico- Huichol
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselNew Zealand- Maori
Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Preserved in a VesselPeru -Indianof Huarochirí
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals SparedRussia- Vogul
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Preserved in a VesselU.S.A. (Alaska)- Kolusches
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselU.S.A. (Alaska)- Tlingit
Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselU.S.A. (Arizona)- Papago
Destruction by Water Warning Given Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselU.S.A. (Hawaii)- legend of Nu-u
Destruction by Water Divine Cause Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselVanuatu- Melanesians
Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselVietnam- Bahnar
Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a VesselWales -Dwyfan/Dwyfach legend
Destruction by Water Humans Spared Animals Spared Preserved in a Vessel[Artwork—Chinese characters]
VESSEL + EIGHT+ MOUTH (or Persons) .................... SHIP
